Spirals and Lines at the intersection of Hatt Rd (entrance to Pine Gap) and Stuart Hwy, Western Australia. Click on the image to zoom in for the full details. The Spirals are in the sandy area, the lines to the right of the highway.

It has been suggested that these are irrigation circles... yet most irrigation circles are concentric rings from the wheels and sprayers. Also there is no sign of farming in this area, being the entrance to Pine Gap military extablishment

It has been suggested that these are erosion protection marks, yet the area is flat, and the circles are overlapping, random sizes and very precicely drawn

So... I decided it was time to write some emails...

Sent: Tuesday, 1 September 2009 6:47 AM

Greetings

I recently spotted some very interesting over lapping spirals at the intersection of Hatt Rd. and Stuart Highway south of Alice Springs. They appear to be ancient petroglyph's (or geoglyphs), perhaps Aboriginal Art? I have been attempting to find out about them but it seems their proximity to Pine Gap seems to make that difficult.

The location is here: -23° 49' 17.71", +133° 49' 58.83"

Any information you mighty have on this would be greatly appreciated

Thank you for your time

PS Here is the image...

Regards
Ron Schmidt
Las Vegas Nevada

Sent: Tuesday, 1 September 2009 10:40 AM

Dear Mr Bednarik

We have received the following enquiry from Ron Schmidt. I hope that you do not mind me forwarding it to you but it has been suggested that you may be better placed to assist him than Geoscience Australia, or that you may be able to refer him to somebody else who can.

Regards
Felicity

Felicity Siro
Collection Services Librarian
The N.H. (Doc) Fisher Geoscience Library
Geoscience Australia
GPO Box 378, Canberra, ACT, 2601, Australia

LETTER #2

From: Siro Felicity On Behalf Of Library Reference
Sent: Tuesday, 1 September 2009 11:37 AM
To: Education; Media; Earth Monitoring
Cc: Library Reference
Subject: FW: Geoglyphs near Alice Springs [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi

I see this enquiry has gone to many places. Anyone taken it up? I hope so because I do not know the answer!

Felicity Siro
Library Reference

Sent: Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:11 AM

Dear Ron (and Felicity),

Most certainly your spirals are not petroglyphs, they occur in sandy soil. Judging from the width of the highway, they are more than 50 m in diameter.

I have seen hundreds of geoglyphs in various continents, especially South America, but none of such perfect geometry. Australian geoglyphs occur as "stone arrangements" and their typical forms are well known.

What you have here is either someone having had some fun (this has happened before further south, where some chap created a giant human figure with a grader), or alternatively, and more likely, this is incidental to some utilitarian activity, such as an irrigation machine.

It is certainly of no interest to us, but thank you for raising it.

Robert G. Bednarik
Editor, Int. Fed. of Rock Art Organisations (IFRAO)

Sent: Monday, 31 August 2009 10:13 PM

Ron

I am not able to help you further with your inquiry except to say that the Northern Territory Geological Survey may be able to point you in the right direction for more information.

http://www.nt.gov.au/d/Minerals_Energy/Geoscience/

Kind regards

Shona

Shona Blewett
Education Centre Manager
Geoscience Australia
GPO Box 378, Canberra, ACT, 2601
Corner Jerrabomberra Avenue and Hindmarsh Drive, Symonston, ACT, 2609

Subject: Re: Geoglyphs near Alice Springs [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Sent: Monday, 31 August 2009 9:47 PM
From: Danny Galbraith
To: [various recipients]

Ron

There are a number of the spirals in the Alice Springs area.
I am not sure who or what created them.
Degrees minutes, seconds

S23 46 19 - E133 52 34
S23 46 09 - E133 52 51
S23 46 39 - E133 52 38

Regards

Danny

Danny Galbraith
Geodesy Project Officer
Geoscience Australia Earth Monitoring Group
Web: http://www.ga.gov.au
S   35  20’ 35” - E 149  09’ 30”

 Just to the East of the Yakima Training Center (Washington, US) ECHELON Station, I spotted this forest fire. But I am more interested in what these circles in the forest are.

Related Links:

• Yakima Training Center (Washington, US) - Wikipedia
• NSA (NRO co-op) ECHELON Regional SIGINT Operations Site (RSOC)
• US Military Reservation Yakima, WA 98901 +46° 40' 56.24", -120° 21' 24.31"

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Once again we see the spiral represented in another ancient culture. This one even has a serpent exiting the 'wormhole' and a set of dots on one side. This is a theme seen all over the planet.